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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by Sharonh</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-6021</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharonh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Venhuizen, you sound like an out-of-towner who's posing as a self proclaimed expert on growth.  Are you trying to drum up a little business for yourself in San Marcos?  Why don't you go drum up some bidness in your own haunts?  Anyone from San Marcos knows that Springtown Mall, not Spring Creek(?) is where Target, JC Penny, etc are located.  And sorry but water costs too much in San Marcos (ecologically and economically) to to irrigate your proposed gardens to feed the city. 

Sorry, no balls here, my name is Sharon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Venhuizen, you sound like an out-of-towner who&#8217;s posing as a self proclaimed expert on growth.  Are you trying to drum up a little business for yourself in San Marcos?  Why don&#8217;t you go drum up some bidness in your own haunts?  Anyone from San Marcos knows that Springtown Mall, not Spring Creek(?) is where Target, JC Penny, etc are located.  And sorry but water costs too much in San Marcos (ecologically and economically) to to irrigate your proposed gardens to feed the city. </p>
<p>Sorry, no balls here, my name is Sharon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Proposed rewrite puts teeth in San Marcos&#8217; animal ordinances by JustaDog</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5498#comment-6015</link>
		<dc:creator>JustaDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord, now Govco wants to tell me I can not let someone sell their puppies on my PRIVATE PROPERTY parking lot.  What's next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord, now Govco wants to tell me I can not let someone sell their puppies on my PRIVATE PROPERTY parking lot.  What&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Proposed rewrite puts teeth in San Marcos&#8217; animal ordinances by Jason Harper</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5498#comment-5966</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the one time microchip registration as long as it is reasonably priced and isn't used as another revenue generator for the city and its, dare I say, pet projects.  

While outlawing the sale of animals on public property and private parking lots sounds noble, the truth is that shopping mall and strip center pet stores are the largest purveyors of puppy-mill dogs.  Further, hobby breeders and other amateur breeders lie at the root of the problem.  Until we address these parties outlawing the sale of animals in a parking lots and flea markets will be as effective as me trying to get my waste water bill lowered this year.

I too have a problem with 'officer discretion'.  As the Mayor points out, “We’ve learned that when we hear the words ‘officers’ discretion’ the result is an inequitable application of the regulation.”, police officers in San Marcos have failed in their duty to enforce the laws and ordinances in an equitable fashion.  Until there are major personnel changes at the police dept. I think our pets would be safer with less discretion in the hands of law enforcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the one time microchip registration as long as it is reasonably priced and isn&#8217;t used as another revenue generator for the city and its, dare I say, pet projects.  </p>
<p>While outlawing the sale of animals on public property and private parking lots sounds noble, the truth is that shopping mall and strip center pet stores are the largest purveyors of puppy-mill dogs.  Further, hobby breeders and other amateur breeders lie at the root of the problem.  Until we address these parties outlawing the sale of animals in a parking lots and flea markets will be as effective as me trying to get my waste water bill lowered this year.</p>
<p>I too have a problem with &#8216;officer discretion&#8217;.  As the Mayor points out, “We’ve learned that when we hear the words ‘officers’ discretion’ the result is an inequitable application of the regulation.”, police officers in San Marcos have failed in their duty to enforce the laws and ordinances in an equitable fashion.  Until there are major personnel changes at the police dept. I think our pets would be safer with less discretion in the hands of law enforcement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Proposed rewrite puts teeth in San Marcos&#8217; animal ordinances by JustaDog</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5498#comment-5949</link>
		<dc:creator>JustaDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about for feral cast that we pass a law that requires shoot shovel, and shut up.  We kill rats and other vermin, why do we want to protect a detrimental animal and allow is to roam the streets?  Good grief, we have become a nation of sissies.  I say give them a dose of lead poisoning...a 22 caliber bullet right between the eyes.  Instant, painless, and humane.  Next thing you know we will be setting up sanctuaries for feral cats to live with nice food and bedding.  Unbelievable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about for feral cast that we pass a law that requires shoot shovel, and shut up.  We kill rats and other vermin, why do we want to protect a detrimental animal and allow is to roam the streets?  Good grief, we have become a nation of sissies.  I say give them a dose of lead poisoning&#8230;a 22 caliber bullet right between the eyes.  Instant, painless, and humane.  Next thing you know we will be setting up sanctuaries for feral cats to live with nice food and bedding.  Unbelievable!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by David</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5942</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your service and logic John. I hope you decide to run again and hope you the best against the Narvaiz machine. I'm sure we will see another Narvaiz backed candidate like Porterfield who surprise, surprise has been another lame duck Narvaiz  puppet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your service and logic John. I hope you decide to run again and hope you the best against the Narvaiz machine. I&#8217;m sure we will see another Narvaiz backed candidate like Porterfield who surprise, surprise has been another lame duck Narvaiz  puppet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by John Thomaides</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5921</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thomaides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have said a lot about this issue during the council meetings, but there are a few things I want to add.  I would have liked to see the results of denying the additional request.  I have a very strong feeling based on many factors that no delay in completion of the project would have occurred.  I base this on experience with many incentive requests over the past 6 years and the additional information that I receive as a councilperson. This was not a competition between San Marcos and other cities and was never presented to us as one, so there was no "give us the money or were oughta' here" type of discussion. We already approved a $2 million incentive in 2007 for the exact reasons that are being used now as reasons to give $6 million.  Nothing has changed in the development other than a movie theater was deleted from the plan. Finally, the ramp reversal, drainage improvements, rock walls, and road work with sidewalks were all planned by the developers as their preference or required by development standards and not special requests by council.  In the near future I will be introducing a discussion item before the council to consider allowing more time between the posting of a incentive request on the agenda and the final vote to allow for more transparency and citizen participation and comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have said a lot about this issue during the council meetings, but there are a few things I want to add.  I would have liked to see the results of denying the additional request.  I have a very strong feeling based on many factors that no delay in completion of the project would have occurred.  I base this on experience with many incentive requests over the past 6 years and the additional information that I receive as a councilperson. This was not a competition between San Marcos and other cities and was never presented to us as one, so there was no &#8220;give us the money or were oughta&#8217; here&#8221; type of discussion. We already approved a $2 million incentive in 2007 for the exact reasons that are being used now as reasons to give $6 million.  Nothing has changed in the development other than a movie theater was deleted from the plan. Finally, the ramp reversal, drainage improvements, rock walls, and road work with sidewalks were all planned by the developers as their preference or required by development standards and not special requests by council.  In the near future I will be introducing a discussion item before the council to consider allowing more time between the posting of a incentive request on the agenda and the final vote to allow for more transparency and citizen participation and comment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by Ted Marchut</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5905</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Marchut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that incenting urban sprawl seems counter to the goal of a vibrant downtown and pedestrian-friendly city.

That being said, cycling on the access road is far better than trying to navigate Hopkins and Thorpe on a bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that incenting urban sprawl seems counter to the goal of a vibrant downtown and pedestrian-friendly city.</p>
<p>That being said, cycling on the access road is far better than trying to navigate Hopkins and Thorpe on a bike.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by YS</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5899</link>
		<dc:creator>YS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see any grenades being thrown.  People are usually pretty civil on this board.  So, as far as "land planning" goes, are you suggesting the government tell us exactly what we can and cannot put on our property, including leaving it for agriculture?  I don't think you'll get much traction for that.  Are you suggesting the Mayor should have issued a decree forbidding Target, Penney's, et al from ever moving?  And what do you mean San Marcos has no downtown?

What a blessing for you that things are so civil on this board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any grenades being thrown.  People are usually pretty civil on this board.  So, as far as &#8220;land planning&#8221; goes, are you suggesting the government tell us exactly what we can and cannot put on our property, including leaving it for agriculture?  I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll get much traction for that.  Are you suggesting the Mayor should have issued a decree forbidding Target, Penney&#8217;s, et al from ever moving?  And what do you mean San Marcos has no downtown?</p>
<p>What a blessing for you that things are so civil on this board.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by David Venhuizen</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5897</link>
		<dc:creator>David Venhuizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, by the way, who are these weenies that throw their grenades from behind a pseudonym?  Talk about no balls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, by the way, who are these weenies that throw their grenades from behind a pseudonym?  Talk about no balls!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by David Venhuizen</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5896</link>
		<dc:creator>David Venhuizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few matters that Mr. Hankins did not address:

-- That "empty field" was probably prime agricultural land.  Now it is not.  This simply highlights that we just don't have anything in the same universe as land planning based on long-term values to society in this state.  And that is quite intentional, because this is a "property rights" state.  A truly deluded concept.  But that's another discussion.  Back to the point, maybe it wasn't in actual agricultural production, but it could have been, and in the future that may have been of some value to the community -- as many believe that more localized food production will become a necessity in the future.  Yet preservation of prime agricultural land appears nowhere in the "values" that guide planning and development here.

-- This abatement promotes sprawl and degrades the inner city.  As was noted, the 3 major tenants at Stone Creek will abandon Spring Creek to relocate there, out in BFE.  What does this say about the vision San Marcos has of itself?  It has no real downtown, no real sense of place except that imparted by the springs/river and the university.  It is a series of ever more outlying sterile malls.  It would appear that its power structure wants to keep it that way, indeed to speed it along.

-- Related to this ...  Not that anyone walks or bikes much anyway (but in the future, they might, either by choice or necessity), and not that the Spring Creek site was at all inviting to that, but the Stone Creek location is ENTIRELY auto-centric, there's not even the possibility of enhancing pedetrian/cycling travel at that site.  Unless, of course, someone decides to locate housing around this retail wasteland.  But that would consume more prime farmland and further sprawl, unless someone decides to development employment sites near there.  Consuming more prime farmland?  And of course, in effect relocating the real center of San Marcos to around the retail wasteland.  What sort of "downtown" would that be?  Something like the village in "The Prisoner"?  You know, totally plastic, REALLY devoid of any sense of place.

Nope, no ability (or, apparently, desire) to plan for anything that remotely resembles "smart growth".  But still, somehow, it was important to grease that particular development.  Go figure.

Finally, the major point that YS makes is that politicians have no balls -- so they fall for this we gotta give them what they want or they will go elsewhere, exactly because the politicians "elsewhere" have no balls.  Oh, and politicians also have no belief in or commitment to the free market.  That whole concept is such an illusion.  This matter is merely a graphic illustration of that.  The market is ALWAYS being "mediated" by political machinations, large and small -- it is not free.  Again, however, this is a much larger discussion, for another time and place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few matters that Mr. Hankins did not address:</p>
<p>&#8211; That &#8220;empty field&#8221; was probably prime agricultural land.  Now it is not.  This simply highlights that we just don&#8217;t have anything in the same universe as land planning based on long-term values to society in this state.  And that is quite intentional, because this is a &#8220;property rights&#8221; state.  A truly deluded concept.  But that&#8217;s another discussion.  Back to the point, maybe it wasn&#8217;t in actual agricultural production, but it could have been, and in the future that may have been of some value to the community &#8212; as many believe that more localized food production will become a necessity in the future.  Yet preservation of prime agricultural land appears nowhere in the &#8220;values&#8221; that guide planning and development here.</p>
<p>&#8211; This abatement promotes sprawl and degrades the inner city.  As was noted, the 3 major tenants at Stone Creek will abandon Spring Creek to relocate there, out in BFE.  What does this say about the vision San Marcos has of itself?  It has no real downtown, no real sense of place except that imparted by the springs/river and the university.  It is a series of ever more outlying sterile malls.  It would appear that its power structure wants to keep it that way, indeed to speed it along.</p>
<p>&#8211; Related to this &#8230;  Not that anyone walks or bikes much anyway (but in the future, they might, either by choice or necessity), and not that the Spring Creek site was at all inviting to that, but the Stone Creek location is ENTIRELY auto-centric, there&#8217;s not even the possibility of enhancing pedetrian/cycling travel at that site.  Unless, of course, someone decides to locate housing around this retail wasteland.  But that would consume more prime farmland and further sprawl, unless someone decides to development employment sites near there.  Consuming more prime farmland?  And of course, in effect relocating the real center of San Marcos to around the retail wasteland.  What sort of &#8220;downtown&#8221; would that be?  Something like the village in &#8220;The Prisoner&#8221;?  You know, totally plastic, REALLY devoid of any sense of place.</p>
<p>Nope, no ability (or, apparently, desire) to plan for anything that remotely resembles &#8220;smart growth&#8221;.  But still, somehow, it was important to grease that particular development.  Go figure.</p>
<p>Finally, the major point that YS makes is that politicians have no balls &#8212; so they fall for this we gotta give them what they want or they will go elsewhere, exactly because the politicians &#8220;elsewhere&#8221; have no balls.  Oh, and politicians also have no belief in or commitment to the free market.  That whole concept is such an illusion.  This matter is merely a graphic illustration of that.  The market is ALWAYS being &#8220;mediated&#8221; by political machinations, large and small &#8212; it is not free.  Again, however, this is a much larger discussion, for another time and place.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City of Kyle Channel: Fuentes third graders hold mock city council by Todd Webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they third graders vote for a 25% tax increase? :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by Lamar Hankins</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5835</link>
		<dc:creator>Lamar Hankins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attacking Robert McDonald with an unproven allegation of "sour grapes" really doesn't address the main points of his argument.  As far as the fishing metaphor goes, if you catch your limit of the species you are fishing for, it doesn't matter that you weren't fishing for great white sharks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attacking Robert McDonald with an unproven allegation of &#8220;sour grapes&#8221; really doesn&#8217;t address the main points of his argument.  As far as the fishing metaphor goes, if you catch your limit of the species you are fishing for, it doesn&#8217;t matter that you weren&#8217;t fishing for great white sharks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by Joe the Coder</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5808</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe the Coder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Robert McDonald has some sour grapes... he's never been able to catch the "big fish", I guess.

YS touches on a lot of the points of why this is a no-brainer.  The other points... which I've made before, but since some people don't seem to get it...

 - Property tax (ad valorem) abatement.  20% to the City, 80% to Stone Creek.  I wonder how much the appraised value of that property has increased, from being an EMTPY FIELD to a fully developed retail site.  Probably enough to where the 20% the city gets to keep will still be an increased amount over the whole of what they're getting now.  And after 5 years, that abatement is gone.

 - Never mind the fact that this was an empty field owned by the STATE, generating NO tax revenue for the better part of the last few years.

 - Sales tax rebates.  The City keeps the first $500K.  Period.  The next $500K gets split just like the property taxes - 20% to the City, 80% to Stone Creek.  After that ($1 million +), it gets split 50/50.

 - The TOTAL abatement will not exceed $6 million.  And it's only for five years.  The argument about giving this kind of "bailout" during an economic downturn doesn't hold water - if the center doesn't perform as intended, guess what, the developer loses.  If Stone Creek doesn't rake in enough income over the course of 5 years, the developer loses.  I would bet that the sales tax revenue currently generated by Springtown as a whole (because let's be honest... once these three bail out, the remaining stores will likely move as their leases expire) is lower than the amount that will be generated by this development once it has an opportunity to fully develop, say year 2.

And "Can of Worms" - how is this going to result in lawsuits?  If a developer can bring a similar project to the table that is going to result in a net tax increase, I'm sure they'll be presented with a similar package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Robert McDonald has some sour grapes&#8230; he&#8217;s never been able to catch the &#8220;big fish&#8221;, I guess.</p>
<p>YS touches on a lot of the points of why this is a no-brainer.  The other points&#8230; which I&#8217;ve made before, but since some people don&#8217;t seem to get it&#8230;</p>
<p> - Property tax (ad valorem) abatement.  20% to the City, 80% to Stone Creek.  I wonder how much the appraised value of that property has increased, from being an EMTPY FIELD to a fully developed retail site.  Probably enough to where the 20% the city gets to keep will still be an increased amount over the whole of what they&#8217;re getting now.  And after 5 years, that abatement is gone.</p>
<p> - Never mind the fact that this was an empty field owned by the STATE, generating NO tax revenue for the better part of the last few years.</p>
<p> - Sales tax rebates.  The City keeps the first $500K.  Period.  The next $500K gets split just like the property taxes - 20% to the City, 80% to Stone Creek.  After that ($1 million +), it gets split 50/50.</p>
<p> - The TOTAL abatement will not exceed $6 million.  And it&#8217;s only for five years.  The argument about giving this kind of &#8220;bailout&#8221; during an economic downturn doesn&#8217;t hold water - if the center doesn&#8217;t perform as intended, guess what, the developer loses.  If Stone Creek doesn&#8217;t rake in enough income over the course of 5 years, the developer loses.  I would bet that the sales tax revenue currently generated by Springtown as a whole (because let&#8217;s be honest&#8230; once these three bail out, the remaining stores will likely move as their leases expire) is lower than the amount that will be generated by this development once it has an opportunity to fully develop, say year 2.</p>
<p>And &#8220;Can of Worms&#8221; - how is this going to result in lawsuits?  If a developer can bring a similar project to the table that is going to result in a net tax increase, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll be presented with a similar package.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by YS</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5774</link>
		<dc:creator>YS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like it or not, economic incentives are here to stay.  Since San Marcos is not a 403b city we have to use the tools at our disposal to compete against cities that are.  403b means cities that collect sales tax and direct it toward economic development.  Instead a small part of sales tax collected by San Marcos goes to property tax relief for each of us.  The fact is, cities all around us are offering incentives.  Either cash from the war-chests built up through their 403b or through creative measures like this one.  It has become SOP for developers and big-box retailers to come with their list of demands - tax-abatements, waived impact fees, free land - along with the hint of what they're getting from the city down the road.  It would be temporarily satistying to tell them to take a hike but in the long run the cold reality would emerge that they weren't bluffing and the plum projects have ended up elsewhere.  (Who out there doesn't believe Cabela's would have performed better had they located near the outlet malls?) 

I agree that the StoneCreek project, once under way, would have continued.  What the optimist in me likes to think is that the build-out will be quicker with the overhead reduced.  The reality is StoneCreek got underway during moderate economic times and things went south in a hurry.  Retailers everywhere - the tenants StoneCreek was counting on - have stopped expanding or slowed to a snails pace.  Those empty pad sites we see aren't generating any sales tax revenue and precious little property tax revenue.  Anything we can do as a city to make StoneCreek more attractive than say, Creekside in New Braunfels or next to Kohls in Kyle is worth considering.  Yes, it was a very agressive move but I think considering the national economic condition, especially in retail, it was warranted.  All we've given up is something we never had to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like it or not, economic incentives are here to stay.  Since San Marcos is not a 403b city we have to use the tools at our disposal to compete against cities that are.  403b means cities that collect sales tax and direct it toward economic development.  Instead a small part of sales tax collected by San Marcos goes to property tax relief for each of us.  The fact is, cities all around us are offering incentives.  Either cash from the war-chests built up through their 403b or through creative measures like this one.  It has become SOP for developers and big-box retailers to come with their list of demands - tax-abatements, waived impact fees, free land - along with the hint of what they&#8217;re getting from the city down the road.  It would be temporarily satistying to tell them to take a hike but in the long run the cold reality would emerge that they weren&#8217;t bluffing and the plum projects have ended up elsewhere.  (Who out there doesn&#8217;t believe Cabela&#8217;s would have performed better had they located near the outlet malls?) </p>
<p>I agree that the StoneCreek project, once under way, would have continued.  What the optimist in me likes to think is that the build-out will be quicker with the overhead reduced.  The reality is StoneCreek got underway during moderate economic times and things went south in a hurry.  Retailers everywhere - the tenants StoneCreek was counting on - have stopped expanding or slowed to a snails pace.  Those empty pad sites we see aren&#8217;t generating any sales tax revenue and precious little property tax revenue.  Anything we can do as a city to make StoneCreek more attractive than say, Creekside in New Braunfels or next to Kohls in Kyle is worth considering.  Yes, it was a very agressive move but I think considering the national economic condition, especially in retail, it was warranted.  All we&#8217;ve given up is something we never had to begin with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hap Mansfield&#8217;s Blog: The Olympic bikini party by no name</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/2256#comment-5758</link>
		<dc:creator>no name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There discontinuing softball because the US women were winning everyone of them. Until recently where japan had recently won. USA sort of have a monopoly in softball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There discontinuing softball because the US women were winning everyone of them. Until recently where japan had recently won. USA sort of have a monopoly in softball.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by Fact Checker</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5753</link>
		<dc:creator>Fact Checker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mayor and council members Porterfield, Couch and Guerrero voted for it; Thomaides, Bose and Jones voted against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mayor and council members Porterfield, Couch and Guerrero voted for it; Thomaides, Bose and Jones voted against.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by Can of Worms</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5751</link>
		<dc:creator>Can of Worms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I smell future law suits...even more tax $$$ down the drain...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Freethought San Marcos: Questioning development incentives by ...</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5452#comment-5746</link>
		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.

Just a wild guess but were the 4 who voted;

Susan, Chris, Pam and Kim</description>
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<p>Just a wild guess but were the 4 who voted;</p>
<p>Susan, Chris, Pam and Kim</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bobcats fall from NCAA football playoffs with 31-13 loss at Montana by ronald</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5442#comment-5618</link>
		<dc:creator>ronald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great first 25 minutes of game but griz too much in the end -- good season by tx state</description>
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		<title>Comment on City says travel time cut by 20 percent with synchronized traffic lights by Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.sanmarcosmercury.com/archives/5407#comment-5540</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dog,
If you thought I was singing the praises of Kyle's appearance, you misread.
I meant what I said about the train problem in San Marcos - it is a serious problem that will cost a lot of money to fix.
And you may consider San Marcos to be flourishing.  Under the covers it may be flourishing, but frankly the visible sprawl along the major thoroughfares like hwys 80 &#38; 123, and the I35 frontage road is really, really, ugly.  Maybe you see it so often that you don't really see it at all anymore.  Or maybe you see it only as a money/jobs generator and don't care about the physical appearance.  Years ago, San Marcos could have imposed good controls to mandate attractive buildings - but they didn't.  And yes, Kyle could mandate better buildings - but they aren't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog,<br />
If you thought I was singing the praises of Kyle&#8217;s appearance, you misread.<br />
I meant what I said about the train problem in San Marcos - it is a serious problem that will cost a lot of money to fix.<br />
And you may consider San Marcos to be flourishing.  Under the covers it may be flourishing, but frankly the visible sprawl along the major thoroughfares like hwys 80 &amp; 123, and the I35 frontage road is really, really, ugly.  Maybe you see it so often that you don&#8217;t really see it at all anymore.  Or maybe you see it only as a money/jobs generator and don&#8217;t care about the physical appearance.  Years ago, San Marcos could have imposed good controls to mandate attractive buildings - but they didn&#8217;t.  And yes, Kyle could mandate better buildings - but they aren&#8217;t.</p>
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